Leashing the Beast

September 10, 2008 · Print This Article

Dear Eve,

I am hoping that you can solve a little family dispute for me. My sister-in-law and I got into a pretty bitter disagreement recently over the use of leashes on children. It all began when we went to the county fair about a month ago, she had her four year old son on one of those things the entire time! He looked like a sad little puppy as he watched all the other kids running around, having fun. They only time she let him off was to go on a pony ride, and even then she followed him around the loop with one hand on him even though he was strapped in! When I asked her if he’s always on a leash she got angry and said that I should have my daughter on one myself because she is prone to wandering off and the way I parent I might end up losing her. I was livid, but it’s my husband’s sister so I kept silent for the rest of the day.

I had pretty much decided to let it go when a package came to my house last week and what did it have in it? A child’s leash! She had it sent to me, with a note that said “Because I love her.” I am so angry and no one in my family understands why. My husband just says that’s how she is, stop overreacting. Am I overreacting? And what do you (and your readers) think of child leashes?

Thank you,

Freedom mommy

Dear Free-mommin’

Parenting is such an interesting job, isn’t it? For the most part we are left with gray area. There are a few black and white’s: Feed them. Clothe them. Love them. Don’t kill them. We (sane) parents understand and can agree on those basics. But beyond all that, well, things start to get tricky.

Was I a “leashing mother?” No. Does that mean I think anyone who uses those contraptions is a BAD mother? No. While I do not personally agree with them, I can also understand that the parents that do utilize them are most likely well-intentioned. I don’t think they are used maliciously. Much like your sister up there, I think a lot of parents use them out of fear or protectiveness. They seem to be the hover-mothers best friend.

Personally, I am of a different school of thought. I believe my most important job is to teach my kids how to be successful members of society. And in our society we don’t walk people around on leashes. Instead, we must learn not to wander off alone in groups, we learn not to dart out into the street; we learn how to be safe in an unsafe world. Just today as I started to cross a parking lot with my own four year I put down my hand, he grabbed it and we walked. It was all on reflex, that’s simply what we do.

Now anyone that knows my littlest knows that this is an active child. He is a high spirited, high energy kid, and fast, so so fast! He is the kind of kid that needs the time and space to sometimes run free. However, he knows not to dart out, he knows not wander off. Did it take time to teach him? Sure. But whether we do this at 2 or 4 or older, teach them we must. For my family I decided the sooner the better. I am sure there are many out there that don’t agree with me. That’s okay too. we all have our own way.

I understand how easy it is to give into fear as a parent. Those are our hearts walking around out there - of course we have an overwhelming need to guard them and keep them safe. But realize that they could get hurt anywhere: in the car, at school, playing sports, in our own homes. Unless you are going to raise your child in a bubble, you have to know that there are risks with this parenting gig. But one of the greatest rewards is watching them GROW into amazing people…so I for one am going to let them.

Again, this is just my opinion. I realize any parent that does subscribe to “leash law” is going to have their reasons, and that’s okay. We are all free to be the parents we feel we need to be.

Which brings me to the special delivery item you received on your doorstep last week. You ask if you overreacting. In a word, no. You are upset because someone is trying to impose their will upon you in an emotionally manipulative way- who wouldn’t be upset?

Your sister-in-law is doing exactly what I think we should all resist doing as best we can…telling other parents how to parent. Her intentions aside, she is engaging in some passive aggressive bullying and you do NOT have to tolerate that. Shame on your husband for not taking a stand with you. If I were you, his butt would be in the doghouse!

The only problem I see here is that you are complaining to your other family members about it, when you should be taking this issue straight to the source…Sister McMeddlestein.

So I leave you with this suggestion.

Send back a muzzle. And be sure to include a note…

“Because you need one.”

Love and kisses,

Eve

  • Have you ever had to deal with a meddling relative or friend?
  • How did you handle it?
  • And since she asked for all to weigh in…give the girl your opinion on leashing the kids, would ya?

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On 09/9/08 at 9:06 pm
Trista said:

Good morning, gang! Have you walked your toddler today?


On 09/10/08 at 2:10 pm
razor said:

…i would just make lemonade out of lemons and use it as a sex toy…


On 09/10/08 at 2:19 pm
Trista said:

bwahahahahahahahaha!

Nice.

And really, freakin’ kinky.


On 09/10/08 at 8:47 pm
razor said:

..anytime you want a leashing, just say so…i am always willing to be of service…

 
 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 3:10 am
lisaq said:

No, never really had to deal with the meddling business thank goodness. I did, however, leash my youngest for a short time when she was 2 or 3. Like your little guy, girlfriend was fast! If I hadn’t leashed her, I’d have lost her I’m sure. It didn’t take long for her to figure out that if she didn’t take off and hide in a rack of clothes or wander over to talk to the nice man, she didn’t have to wear the leash so it didn’t last long. We lived on a Navy base then which was actually an island. I just knew if I didn’t do something, she was going to end up fish bait in Puget Sound. Not good.


On 09/10/08 at 8:26 am
Trista said:

I can understand. I avoided a particular park in our area for a year because I was afraid thing two was going to run straight into the lake and sink like a stone. It was so murky…we never would have found him!

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 4:16 am
Cassie said:

Don’t have kids, so can’t say about the leash one way or another.

BUT I would tell the sister in law to mind her own bidness! SERIOUSLY!


On 09/10/08 at 6:33 am
Sarahh said:

bidness *Giggles* I love that word.


On 09/10/08 at 8:29 am
Trista said:

yeah, that’s what bothered me about the above situation. Parents gotta do what feels right, but they should never have to tolerate such a guilt drenched mind trip like that!

 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 4:34 am
~Lori~ said:

When I had my first child, I use to get frustrated with what the in-law-grandparents wanted to feed her, had to ask the husband to step in. I even remember his grandmother coming over telling me the baby’s feet were freezing, yet she had socks and shoes on, WTF? I know I was NEW mom, but aren’t we all, if anything I was doing everything by the literal book and the pediatrician, *sigh*. Sometimes you have to let spouse step in, to keep the peace. If not then talk to them directly, politely, through gritted teeth, while biting your tongue, and just say, “I appreciate your concern and thoughtfulness regarding our child, but I do have my own parenting methods I prefer to follow, but I will take it into consideration.” and HOPE no drops of blood show on the corner of your mouth. ;p (usually being overly polite and conveying that it is not up for discussion, gets the point across).

As for the “leash” thing. I am guilty of it briefly on the first child, it was the kind that attached to her wrist and mine, her dad hated it. She wander off from her Granny when we were shopping, and ended up half way across the store, we were looking at clothes *rolls eyes*, she was only two, gave me a heart attack. Once I was sure the wandering thing stopped, which didn’t take long I threw it out. To each their own.


On 09/10/08 at 8:33 am
Trista said:

I had one too, but it never got used as a leash. It was this little backpack animal and the tail was the leash. My mom bought it for my runner. He loved wearing it…as long as no one held the leash part. I am sure he could have been “broken” to it, so to speak, but the thing just felt wrong to all of us. It became a toy.

To each their own, indeed.

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 5:32 am
Jody said:

As far as the leash thing goes, yeah, to each his own. Honestly if a child is prone to taking off then I’ve used something along those lines. Not for long, and only in extremely crowded places. What I used most tho, since I’m short I always wore jeans when the oldest were young, and if I needed a hand free, I had them grab a pocket. They’d reach up and grab hold of one of the pockets of my jeans. I could feel their hands and be aware of them and still do what I needed to do, at the same time be able to react and reach them the second a little hand ’slipped’ out. They loved it. Gave them a tad of freedom to look around, but still stay with me.
As far as meddling in-laws go. Make it known that while you appreciate their concern… you’ve made a decision and would like to not be pressured.. yadayadayada.. it makes a person uncomfortable and no one wants that between family… Hope things work out for ya!


On 09/10/08 at 9:21 am
Trista said:

I still do the pocket-grab thing. It works well for me.

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 5:48 am
Meghan said:

As with Free Mommy, something about the leash leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don’t regard them as a sign of a lazy, crazy or daft parent - but still doesn’t sit well with me.

If you are leasing a child in a public place like a fair with lots of opportunities for social interaction, how much of your own fears are you going to then project onto the child? If I strapped Bean in, she would most certainly ask ‘WHY’ 30 times. Will she then feel unsafe without the leash? Are large crowds going to feel that much less comfortable to her? I don’t know.

I seem to subscribe more to your school of thought about teaching them some of the safety basics that ensure strapping them in no longer necessary. The 10 yr old I still see doesn’t need to take my hand anymore…but he knows to stop look back and wait for me. Often times he instructs his little bro to hold my hand.

They can BE safe, but do they FEEL safe?


On 09/10/08 at 9:46 am
Trista said:

I do think about the fear that we may be instilling in them as well. I don’t want my kids to fear getting lost. Because if they are full of fear they will most likely panic if they are ever in the situation. And chances are they could…we can’t leash them forever. I believe in expecting the best, but preparing for the just in case.


On 09/10/08 at 8:29 pm
Missygail said:

I just have to throw my two cents in here. The random times I used the leash didn’t make my children fear getting lost, but getting lost did.
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I lost my middle daughter in the middle of super wal-mart. I went crazy and was terrified. We use this as a reminder when she or her brother start wandering.
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I think leashes can be used as a teaching tool for a willful child (especially if the willful child belongs to a single parent along with a few other siblings) and then discarded once they learn. I think that using it temporarily will not instill any fears in them.
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Though you do have to instill a little fear in them. Tell them why it could be bad if they leave your side and that there are bad people out there.

 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 6:02 am
Carol said:

I used it once. It was immediately after my ex left and I had two very young, active kids. Eleven months and 2 1/2. We were at a local outdoor event with too many distractions. I bought one from One Step Ahead (supposed to be premier parenting supply company).

Bottom line. I decided I would rather invite a friend to go with me to help with the kids rather than use the “approved” and “safe” item.

For me, it’s the positive or negative energy I feel from the parents who use them. Some seem to use them because they don’t want to think of other ways to handle the situation…they are too lazy to TEACH their kids. Some are obviously being proactive with active children. To each their own…but I would send that leash back to her with a simple, thanks, but no thanks.


On 09/10/08 at 9:55 am
Trista said:

I feel the same way. They didn’t feel right TO ME. But then neither did bottle feeding, that doesn’t mean I think every parent that didn’t breast feed was a bad mom. just a different mom than me.

And yes, your thanks but no thanks is probably a better way to handle it than a muzzle, but come on! Leash…muzzle…that’s funny, no??


On 09/10/08 at 10:52 am
Carol said:

Oh, the muzzle is funny…absolutely. In jest, it’s perfect!

But, I’m not jesting today, I feel kind of serious. Maybe because this is about kids and family….but that is another story.

Bottom line….Sis is an ass for sending it and returning it with negative karma makes Freedom Mommy a bit of a bitch, too. A simple, “I respect you have made the choice to use the lease, I trust you will respect my choice to NOT use it.” seems to serve the purpose of sending the right message. But, again, I’m in a serious mood today.


On 09/10/08 at 11:00 am
Trista said:

I hear ya! But Ask Eve = Tongue-in-cheek. Thems the rules!

 
 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 6:09 am
Sarahh said:

*Sigh*

Until I became a parent I thought tot leashes were disturbing and well horrible!

Then I became a parent and my son walked off. Out of no where, he was RIGHT there, then POOF. Everything turned out ok, but I remember saying, “I get the kid leash thing now. I totally get it.” It is a choice. I don’t think people are wrong for doing it or not doing it.

What I didn’t like was that she sent you one knowing your feelings about it. It was very Rude and Pushy.

I agree with eve here. Send the leash back wrapped around a book of manners. If that doesn’t send a message I don’t know what does!

 

On 09/10/08 at 6:12 am
Bobby Finstock said:

I call shenanigans and bullshit here. Disneyland, monkey backpack, what was in the monkey backpack? A leash… Who ripped on you for taking that jump….

Oh how soon we forget.


On 09/10/08 at 8:24 am
Trista said:

oh no, I didn’t forget that thing. Nor did my kid. But if you’ll recall back you my friend will remember that my mama bought that thang and I never did use it…well, that’s not true. Thing Two still wears it sometimes…

As a backpack. Its a cute backpack after all. But the leash part? Cut off the thing looooong ago.

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 6:21 am
Sarahh said:

They also have “Kid Beepers”

Example http://www.mypreciouskid.com/child-locator.html

This makes more sense to me. You as a parent have piece of mind that you can find them when they run off all of a sudden to eat the gum someone just threw on the floor.

And the kid doesn’t feel like they are the same as the dog being taken for a walk.

I don’t think it is a matter of lazy parenting either. Probably more towards the over protective (of which I am one)…

I get it, but how is your bundle of joy going to feel at 10,15,25 when they look at family pics to the park and he is wearing a cotton candy blue body harness? Just thoughts…


On 09/10/08 at 7:25 am
Karri said:

As a non-Mom I love the beeper idea, Sarah!

I can’t say what I’d do with a whipper snapper in tow. I know what it feels like to lose a pooch and the thought of that happening with my own child terrifies me to no end! At least the beeper gives the parent peace of mind and the harness can be used on the real puppy.

Stowing away for future use. (Hopefully)


On 09/10/08 at 7:28 am
Meghan said:

Same here - this seems far more reasonable to me, and I would consider it. Especially if I had a little Houdini/Ninja who ever ran off on me.

Another non-mom who appreciates why they sell such an item, I just don’t think i could do the leash.


On 09/10/08 at 7:41 am
Karri said:

I hate to be the outcast here, but I can’t say that I wouldn’t use a leash if there weren’t other options.

More than a few times I’ve spent hours looking for lost puppies and it’s such a horrible feeling! I can’t imagine the magnitude of fear one would feel even if a whipper snapper wandered off for even just a few moments…AHHHH!!!


On 09/10/08 at 9:17 am
Trista said:

I’ve had a child wander off on me…and 15 seconds feels like 15 hours.

I understand the fear, I really do.

But when I saw my kid with a handle I realized it wasn’t the right move…for us.


On 09/10/08 at 10:31 am
Sarahh said:

“I have a great handle on my kid!! See it is right there on his back!”


On 09/10/08 at 10:37 am
Trista said:

hahahaha…

yeah.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 6:43 am
bob said:

We leashed the little buggers, at least, when we remembered to bring them along with us, even when two of us were shopping at the same time. Our first one loved to hide from us in department stores (diving into clothes racks, backrooms, changing rooms, leaving through the cool automatically opening doors, up the elevator, down the elevator…you get it). Our second one was simply interested in everything. We didn’t buy anything special, just used old cat and puppy leashes attached to belt loops, button holes or straps.

Anyone who hasn’t done this has a preternaturally calm (drugged?) toddler or doesn’t have a life outside the kids. You can’t do two things at once: pay attention to the kids and shop efficiently, and sometimes the kids have to come along (rather than be left with a sitter or spouse).

What I don’t understand is how single parents do it. At this stage, one kid whupped two of us chasing him around all day. Two, well….we didn’t know what whupped was.

The sister was just trying to be helpful. Sounds like “Freedom Mommy” has unresolved sibling issues that go beyond this simple exchange.


On 09/10/08 at 6:56 am
Phoenix said:

“Anyone who hasn’t done this has a preternaturally calm (drugged?) toddler or doesn’t have a life outside the kids. You can’t do two things at once: pay attention to the kids and shop efficiently”

I’ll have to disagree on this one. And I’m a single mom. Although I will admit that I have only one child, and she was never “hyperactive”, she was always curious.

But I think a healthy amount of respect, fear, realistic expectations, and planning ahead do the job just fine.

If a kid hides in the racks without permission, there should be a valuable consequence. For my kid it would be a spanking or taking away a toy or something else fun, like ice cream. At the same time, remembering how much I liked hiding in the racks when I was a kid, all she had to do was ask and then I said, okay, go in this one that I’m looking at. Everybody’s happy!

Also, just because I didn’t use leashes didn’t mean that I didn’t strap my kid into a stroller, a shopping cart, or use a wagon most of the time when running errands. And I always brought lots of stuff to keep her busy too, because grown up stuff in kinda boring, ya know?


On 09/10/08 at 7:11 am
pecosa said:

I agree, Phoenix. I’m a single mother of two very active kids. One is 8 and the other one is 4. I manage to shop efficiently just fine without my kids being on leashes or pills thankyouverymuch.

I taught them early to stay close by and the dangers and consequences of why. Kids who run in and out of elevators, hide from parents and run to the other end of the store just need to be taught that it’s not safe to be doing that.


On 09/10/08 at 9:24 am
Trista said:

Consequences…that is the key right there.


On 09/10/08 at 5:21 pm
bob said:

Yup. The consequence was the leash. We aren’t much on spanking or humiliation (e.g. yelling at them in public). We have many friends/family that have the calmer sort of kids. Our boys are very active, curious and experimental, and we like to keep them that way (without losing them).

When they both got old enough to understand cause/effect, the need for physical restraint went away. In general, they were very well behaved in stores. But in big department/box stores, something inevitably would trigger a need to wander.

I grew up in northern Europe and leashes on toddlers were a pretty common sight. Most of the kids I grew up were well-adjusted. I just don’t see a problem here.

 
 
 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 6:45 am
Phoenix said:

I had a friend that had a very active son. The first 6 years of his life they lived in the country, so the boy could run and no one worried too much about strangers and cars and such.

Then they moved back to the city. She never had to teach him about these things or leash him in the country, and she was (in my opinion) sort of at a loss as to how to handle his hyperactivity and keep him safe without stigmatizing him or scaring the crap out of him.

So she just sort of yelled sometimes, but didn’t really do a lot. He was a very lucky boy and barely avoided get ran over more than once. But had I been a big meddler (cuz I can’t deny I am a little meddler :p) or passive-aggressive like this sister in law, I may have suggested she use a leash. Because even though I never understood them for myself, I think that looking back on it, a leash would have been better than nothing at all at the time.

Now, with that being said, had she picked up a leash on her own, I probably would have thought (at the time) that she was taking the “lazy way out”. Ahhh, when we are young and think we know what’s best for every one else.

Just an update, the boy survived just fine without any injuries and is now a teenager, even with her “lenient” parenting style, so I have learned to be on the “to each his/her own” bandwagon in my old age.


On 09/10/08 at 8:11 am
Jime said:

Nice story Phi. I am on the Voltaire bandwagon as well. “Tend your own garden.”

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 6:58 am
pecosa said:

Haha, your idea of the muzzle is priceless!

Seriously though, I would be livid too. At the sister for imposing, at the husband for not standing by me, and I would take it straight to the source. Parenting is not a “one size fits all” thing.

I personally don’t agree with the leashes. Would you like to be leashed when you want to explore your surroundings? Teaching your kids to not dart off and run into traffic and that are a parent’s responsability and how and at what age they teach that is their business. I do know mothers who use them because they are too lazy to run with their kids at the park and that angers me to no end, but again, not my kids.


On 09/10/08 at 10:01 am
Trista said:

See, I have this idea of Husband / Wife…Dad / Mom…what have you…this idea of them needing to be a united front. A team. And the husband is dismissing her. that concerns me. Perhaps there is more to this tale (isn’t there always?) and perhaps these two women don’t get along and are always picking at each other. but SENDING the leash…with the cutting note? To me that took it too far, and hubby really should step in and say something to his sister.

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 7:54 am
El Supremo said:

Kid leashes are just one more symptom of the generation of whining pussies being raised in America right now.


On 09/10/08 at 9:28 am
Trista said:

On 09/10/08 at 12:37 pm
El Supremo said:

By the time I moved out of my parents’ house, I’d had over 100 stitches, broken a finger and a collar bone, bruised some ribs, had a concussion, been pitched off a few horses, ridden bulls, taken a shot from a copperhead (which luckily hit my boot), used firearms unsupervised since the age of 12 and been allowed to roam for miles in the prairie and farmland behind my house (which is, sadly, now all neighborhoods) every single day. Does that mean I had bad parents who didn’t care? Or does it mean I was, you know… a fucking BOY doing BOY STUFF.

Parents are raising an entire generation of kids who have had so much hovering-mother attention their entire lives, whose fathers are scarcely identifiable as men, who have never been allowed to fail or get hurt or even just play in the damned mud, that the world is going to hand those kids their asses when they reach the cusp of adulthood. Moving forward from there, you’ll have a large swathe of the population thinking they’re entitled to comfort and safety in a world where no one ever, ever has to experience anything negative and where the government is the substitution for good ol’ mom.

To whit, my original assessment - whining pussies.


On 09/10/08 at 12:41 pm
Trista said:

I am giving you a standing ovation. Seriously.


On 09/10/08 at 4:06 pm
El Supremo said:

The flip side of the amount of trust and freedom I was given was that I NEVER did anything wrong. I knew abusing the trust I was shown was the surest way to lose that freedom. The kids I knew who were the worst - drinking, stealing, getting in huge trouble at school, generally acting like fools - were the ones whose parents rode their asses over every minute detail.


On 09/10/08 at 6:05 pm
bob said:

Sounds like you were a pretty good kid. Probably in the middle-upper end of the self-control bell curve. Not every kid is built that way.

We live in the northern Rockies. Kids out here have a lot of freedom, and many would do well if they were a little more restrained. I do search and rescue work and there’s nothing like pulling little bodies out of rivers, lakes, and avalanche corridors to educate you about the consequences letting kids roam without adequate supervision or self-restraint.

The difference between “loose” parental control and criminal parental negligence is often just a matter of luck.

There needs to be balance, often fine and tenuous, between restraint and freedom. Different techniques work for different kids and situations. I admire those parents whose every waking moment is devoted to the well-being and right-upbringing of their spawn. But many of us don’t have the time or patience to continually deal with the eccentricities of being 24 months old.

At the same time, we place a premium on child survival. The occasional physical restraint (leash, hand holding, backpack, Snuggli, carrying, stroller) comes in handy when you need to focus on something other than your kid. At least a leash allows kids to explore within a range (unlike when they’re restrained in a stroller or being held by a parent).

When kids are two, they don’t feel like they’re being treated like a pet because they’re on a leash. All they know is that they can’t wander too far from the parent. By the time they’re three or four, they begin to figure out the “consequence” thing. Once they hit that stage, a leash is counter-productive.

In my book, the biggest non-starter is for a parent to say they’re giving their kids freedom in the absence of any context for appreciating that freedom. But the trick is how to establish the contact without simultaneously transmitting the message that violence, pain, and humiliation are appropriate tools to establish behavioral boundaries.

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 4:32 pm
Karri said:

DITTO!

Can you tell which of us grew up without street lights?

 
 
 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 8:00 am
Jime said:

Ok, I agree with your advice Trista, but I disagree when you say that, “Your sister-in-law is doing exactly what I think we should all resist doing as best we ca…telling other parents how to parent.” This statement is backward. The sister-in-law did not draw first blood here–Freedom Mother did. This is because Freedom Mother was meddling. She is a meddler.

Most people seem to think that if something is true it can or should be spoken out loud with impunity. Well, then, “Your thighs are chunky,” “Your kid’s a brat,” and “Your husbands’s dick is tiny.”

Some folks used the their opinion as a weapon to hurt or feel superior. You must always ask yourself, “What benefit is it to the person to know…whatever?” Freedom-Mother made the mistake of criticizing Leash-Mother’s mothering habits.

What I suggest Freedom-Mother do is politely apologize for meddling and reinforce this by telling Leash-Mother that she has every right to raise her child exactly as she sees fit.


On 09/10/08 at 8:24 am
Phoenix said:

“Your husband’s dick is tiny.”

Ummm, how exactly could one come up with this opinion without…oh, nevermind.


On 09/10/08 at 8:35 am
Jime said:

STOP MEDDLING!


On 09/10/08 at 9:34 am
Trista said:

You do have a point…I skipped over the detail of her asking about the leash because it seemed more innocent to me than it does to you. But if this is a sensitive subject between these women I can imagine how leash mama took it as an attack from freedom mama.


On 09/10/08 at 9:55 am
Jime said:

I agree with you that Freedom-Mother wrote “sounds” innocuous, but I’ve discovered that most people tend to make their indiscretions sound innocent in order to get you to side with them. The fact is probably closer to Freedom-Mother being more pushy and reckless with her comment and that Leash-Mom probably took it as an attack.

Any kind of criticism (no matter how innocent) between in-laws gets magnified by about ten thousand, anyway.


On 09/10/08 at 9:57 am
Trista said:

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think I just took a side in an all out family war.

Curses…I shoulda been Switzerland!


On 09/10/08 at 10:15 am
Jime said:

Totally. AND as an added bonus you would have had access to hot chocolate and miniature marshmallows!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 8:17 am
Josie said:

I am definitely with the OP on just griping to the family so that it gets back to the offender. What would you achieve by having a confrontation with someone you are (hopefully) going to have to deal with for life? Families don’t automatically get along, and I reckon quiet roundabout messages help to round off spiky corners. I hope I would summon up the grace to thank her for the gift, possibly with a little dig about using it if I had to take the tot somewhere really, really dangerous

If you personally enjoy being a drama queen, then go ahead, but you have to live with the consequences. I would be reluctant to ever go to the county fair again or anywhere with you, which would be tough on the kids.

It might be different if she was making continual efforts to interfere with your management of your family, but that is not mentioned here. Just the OP having started the argument.


On 09/10/08 at 9:49 am
Trista said:

I respectfully disagree. Complaining behind someone’s back in the hopes that it gets back to them is incredibly passive aggressive. This person is family, why can this woman not go to her and explain how she feels? These women are raising children together in a family…and they clearly have differing styles of parenting. The sooner they talk, and figure out how to agree to dissagree…the better off this entire family will be.

The muzzle thing was a joke, I always end with a joke…but they do seriously need to talk it out, in my opinion.

 
 

On 09/10/08 at 8:19 am
bryan said:

i think leashing your children is indeed bad parenting and indicative of being fucking lazy… also it is creepy and just plain weird. were talking children, small humans, not pets. just my two cents.


On 09/10/08 at 9:50 am
Trista said:

Well, tell us how you really feel, Bryan! =)


On 09/10/08 at 11:08 am
bryan said:

i tend to do that. i’ve alot more to say about it as well, but i should probably keep myself in check.
bottom line. if you need a leash for your kid then maybe you shouldn’t have had one.


On 09/10/08 at 6:09 pm
bob said:

How many kids you got Bryan?

 
 
 
 

On 09/10/08 at 8:51 am
Fiona said:

I leashed my kid. Yup, and I would again. She was 10 months old, DETERMINED to walk, and refused to be strapped into the push chair. So, the best option for our sanity was a leash. She got to walk and I got to go about day to day business without the insanity screaming tots bring on. As soon as she was old enough to understand that she had to hold hands, follow mommy, and sit when told to the leash was gone.

The leash lasted for about a month. Mom used to leash me when we went into town. It was crowded, dirty and always a crush of people on narrow streets, after loosing me and my brother at 1 1/2 and 3 respectively, she whipped those bad boys out.

I think they are a useful tool and a personal choice, but they should NEVER be forced on another parent, nor should they be ridiculed by others. You’re parenting style is yours alone and you have NO idea why someone is doing what they do. Don’t judge, ask.

Anyway, as for meddling relitives, my sis-in-law tried to push her beliefs onto my child the other day. I blew a fuse. Not only where they COMPLETLY removed from my own, but actually ignorant and misinformed. I didn’t handle it well. :) At least the cow is alive to moo another day though.