Relationships…Reincarnated

June 10, 2008 · Print This Article

Whether all men are actually created equal or not is most certainly worthy of a debate or two, but what is not arguable is the fact that they are eerily similar. Now-now, before all of you sausage hangers get uptight and bent out of shape, hear me out.

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As an equal opportunity dater I’ve had the privilege (and a time or two the unfortunate luck), to have dated a multitude of men; no age, race, religion, profession or even occasional gender preference has been excluded from my repertoire. I’ve never understood “types” I just simply don’t have one. A line-up of my dating pool could easily be confused with a United Nations conference. And although no member of my harem would look the same from a distance, spend a minute or two with them and their common underlying personality traits become glaringly apparent.

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The quintessential alpha-male, the control freak, the prettier than me man, the joker, the workaholic, the spiritually enlightened philosopher, the sex crazed maniac, the emotionally stunted social retard, the health and fitness fanatic and of course the egocentric with low self-esteem. It’s as if each and every one of them although unique in their own right has been embedded with a universal magnetic force that catches my attention like a moth to a light bulb.

low self-esteem, egocentric, sex crazed, fitness fanatic

As time forges on, my date-o-meter has become increasingly acute. Sixty-seconds into a meet and greet and I’m playing a mental game of Concentration, matching the old with the new. Rather than actually seeing a potential suitor for his individuality, I find myself comparing him with past familiars. And being as how I am no where near a celebration of longevity this isn’t exactly an ideal scenario.

past familiars

I’m beginning to feel as though I’m eating at the same salad bar every day. Sometimes I choose Iceberg and other days Radicchio; it may look and taste different, but its still lettuce. So I have to wonder if it is merely the fact that I’ve encountered so many personalities that eventually they start to overlap? Or could it be that men are so incredibly akin to one another that there is only a handful to sample?

Share with me, people. Am I the only whose dating life resembles Ground Hog Day? Or are you too a repeat offender?

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On 06/10/08 at 2:12 am
Jime said:

Sometimes you have to visualize a piece of art before you start splashing on the oils.

Are you going to the Man-Store to buy, or are you just there to browse? When a person goes into a store to buy: they know what they are looking for. They cut through the aisles, get the product and beeline to the checkout. If you’re just there to browse then yeah, I’m sure that every manly trait will mesh into a homogeny of silly-putty-colored Man-ness. As you browse the Man-Store all the stereotypes will pop up over every shelf, over and over again and maybe this is because you’re looking at the broad spectrum and not focusing on what you want.
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So…what do you want? I’d suggest thinking about the qualities you want in a man before subjecting yourself to dating one. If a man wants to date you and you know he doesn’t meet your convictions then why waste his (and your) time?
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You’re a beautiful woman. You’re intelligent and funny. Now go get that lucky fellow!


On 06/10/08 at 6:08 am
Karri said:

…”a homogeny of silly-putty-colored Man-ness.”
That is freakin’ hysterical!

I have become very clear on what I want and don’t want, and I have no issue with walking away. Perhaps I’ve just dated too many men? Eeeeewww! That sounded really bad!


On 06/10/08 at 7:23 am
Jime said:

As an added bonus you’re probably an expert dater by now! You’re “elite”.
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I don’t know if you’ve dated too many men or just too many of the wrong men. Maybe Sarahh is right and it’s just dumb luck that will get you out of the cycle. Or…your responses below have sparked an idea: perhaps you need a man who encompasses all these traits. It was your comment about ADD dating that caused this. Maybe you need a Renaissance man who dips his fingers in several spheres and you just haven’t found him yet.
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This actually reminds me of one of my own problems. I have become involved in so many creative interests as a way to prepare myself for a lover that it has become hard to find a love who can keep up with all those activities. Know what I mean?


On 06/10/08 at 7:54 am
Karri said:

YAY for me, an elite dater…ugh! Really?

I haven’t necessarily involved myself in different interests to prepare myself for anyone. I just get bored easily and have yet to run across anyone who can either keep up or at the very least be supportive. So yes, I know what ‘cha mean!


On 06/10/08 at 9:24 am
Jime said:

Haha…”Keep Up” has become one of my favorite phrases. It’s so pretentious.
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A valuable skill is the ability to shift gears. Gender aside, many people can’t do this (or don’t take the time). Maybe you’re dating guys that are refined in one area, but then can’t shift gears to meet your needs in a different one.
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IDK. All I do know is that dating=hell. It’s a warzone out there.


On 06/10/08 at 9:49 am
Karri said:

And what is wrong with me that I don’t think dating = hell? Most often, I rather enjoy it.


On 06/10/08 at 10:02 am
Jime said:

Yeah, but that’s cause you’re ELITE! You’re like Ice-man in the Top Gun of dating. You got mad skills. I’m like…Goose. Eject Goose, just eject and advance the plot.

 

On 06/10/08 at 10:48 am
Karri said:

I do love me some Top Gun!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 3:35 am
~Lori~ said:

I think men make me think of a painting, similar to what the lady above me says. They all are different, beautiful, but the paint strokes have their own style. When it comes down to it they are still just a painting/man. Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, what appeals to one does not to another. I always look for the best/beauty in every individual I come across, unfortunately they don’t always see that within themselves, and as time goes on, what was once so beautiful, starts to become tarnished with their own self image and issues. I have always loved the phrase, “I’m unique, just like everyone else.” All you can do when it comes to dating and relationships, is give it a shot, step off that cliff, and see how it flies.


On 06/10/08 at 6:12 am
Karri said:

I step off the cliff so often that I should have a parachute permanently installed under my cloak. I still have yet to decide if that’s a curse or a blessing.

 

On 06/10/08 at 7:25 am
Jime said:

Ooooh tee-hee!
I’m a MAN, not a lady!
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Er…maybe it’s time to change my avatar.


On 06/10/08 at 7:55 am
Karri said:

I was trying to let that one slide under the radar. Whooopsie.


On 06/10/08 at 9:48 am
~Lori~ said:

Oops! My bad…


On 06/10/08 at 10:12 am
Jime said:

/wink Hahaaa it’s O.K.

 
 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 6:01 am
Sarahh said:

I tried to date different types. And they were at first. But a strange thing began to happen. In the end they all seemed the same.

This fact scared the shit out of me. I can’t lie.

*Shudder*

I was beginning to feel like no matter what he looked like, did, didn’t do, acted, blah blah blah, I was only attracted to one type of guy.

Thank God that proved to be untrue. For now…

Hahaha Just kidding…


On 06/10/08 at 6:15 am
Karri said:

The men I’ve dated, married or just had meaningless flings with are all over the map…there is no type. They’re just starting to repeat.

How did you finally break the cycle?


On 06/10/08 at 6:19 am
Sarahh said:

A Leprechaun and a sacraficial goat…

Hahahaha…

Just dumb luck I think. I dunno. I think there will always be traits that I am attracted to, good or bad. But as long as I stop the carbon copy situation I should be good to go.

Can you SEE my fingers crossed from over there on the West Coast? ;-)


On 06/10/08 at 6:27 am
Karri said:

I’m feeling your vibe sister!

Now, where did that elf put my lucky rabbit’s foot?

 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 6:06 am
cassie said:

Most of the guys I’ve been with HAVE been pretty much the same as far as the ‘type’ of guy. That way there are way less surprises!


On 06/10/08 at 6:17 am
Karri said:

So you have a type that you stick with? No offense, I’m really curious, but doesn’t that get boring?


On 06/10/08 at 6:51 am
Cassie said:

I guess it would if ever really let them hang around. None of them have been around long enough to get boring….and as far as them ALL being the same….no, It doesn’t get boring because they all are different as well. AND it’s not like I haven’t tried ’seeing’ other types of guys…they just never really sparked my interest!


On 06/10/08 at 7:04 am
Karri said:

Gotcha. You like what you like…makes perfect sense. Maybe I need a pill for ADD - dating. Focus-focus…ha!

 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 6:25 am
Lanier said:

Most of the men I had dated had to be 6ft or taller, with blue eyes, and slim… I was attracted to that from the first time I met Kris. And wanted that forever. As I grew up and older, and the man I am in love with is not 6 ft, nor does he have blue eyes, and he is not slim. He is very attactive to me.

I was never sure of what I wanted until he came around. And with out knowing it, I knew what I deserve. I got him and he is what I did have an idea of when I was a younger woman. I just didnt know I could find him at this time in my life…


On 06/10/08 at 6:30 am
Karri said:

AWE, I love your fairy tale! I’m such a sucker for love and happy endings.

 
 

On 06/10/08 at 6:44 am
Lanier said:

Well Im somewhat waiting on the Happy Ending… We are still planning on Vegas late this year or early next. That’ll be my happy ending… and keeping it will be somewhat of a challenge. We even talked a little about it this weekend.


On 06/10/08 at 7:06 am
Karri said:

When you say Vegas I assume you mean taking a walk down the isle? In my mind, that shouldn’t be your defining moment. You’re already together, sharing your lives…you already have the happiness and no piece of paper will change that.


On 06/10/08 at 7:12 am
Lanier said:

Yea, but its what we both want and are ready for. My family will not be happy w/ me if we move in w/ him and not be married, which i didnt say that to him. But he prefers it too that we be married before we move in together. We just got to get some loose ends tied up.


On 06/10/08 at 7:16 am
Karri said:

In your quest to obtain your goal, just don’t forget to appreciate the moments you have now.


On 06/10/08 at 7:22 am
Lanier said:

I do appreciate the moments. Even if its him and his dad fishing, me there just watchin em. I enjoyed it very much..


On 06/10/08 at 7:25 am
Karri said:

BIG.

FAT.

SMILE!

:)

 
 
 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 6:57 am
bryan said:

So what about the spiritually enlightened philosopher, who is a socially retarded, sex crazed maniac? Run into that combo yet?
The one thing I wasn’t clear about was how exactly are we all alike? You listed personality traits, and it is quite possible there is a limited pool of said traits to choose from, but I’m not convinced that is what makes us, all of us, who we are truly. The salad bar analogy could easily be applied to women. Is there an underlying similarity with all the women I’ve dated, slept with, befriended? Yeah, they are all women and no matter how much we like to believe differently there is some biological programming involved that pretty much applies across the board. Now the beauty is when you run into the ones that don’t quite fit the mold, they are out there and I think the same would hold true for men as well. Perhaps the similarities you see are more on the surface and not what really makes someone who they are? Or I could just be full of shit, which is always a possibility.


On 06/10/08 at 7:14 am
Karri said:

I haven’t run across the spiritually enlightened philosopher-social retard-sex crazed maniac. I would assume that’s because most spiritually enlightened people live by the golden rule, therefore they have exceptional social skills. But I could be full of shit. ;)

“The one thing I wasn’t clear about was how exactly are we all alike?” I’m not saying that every man is like the next, quite the contrary. What I’m saying is that nothing surprises me anymore. It’s as if I’ve depleted all of the resources. Been there, done that. Make sense?


On 06/10/08 at 7:56 am
bryan said:

i guess i get it. however, by saying “been there done that” you are saying that you’ve dated someone exactly like the one you are with at the moment, or no? I suppose i’d like an example of this surprise for which you seek. i think any of us that are truly looking for a relationship to go the distance, are looking for that unique person. the one that stands out to us, that is different and (gasp) surprises us a little. But i guess you are saying that he isn’t out there cause you’ve been through the entire list, checked it once and checked it twice.


On 06/10/08 at 8:04 am
Karri said:

Just call me Mrs. Claus.


On 06/10/08 at 8:46 am
Carol said:

<—still wants the toy bag!

Short.From phone. Missed you all!


On 06/10/08 at 9:47 am
Karri said:

We miss you too!
I hope everything is okay.

 
 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 7:26 am
Jime said:

Or what about the forlorn juggler? She totally skipped over that guy!


On 06/10/08 at 7:59 am
bryan said:

that poor bastard always gets skipped over…


On 06/10/08 at 8:13 am
Karri said:

Crap! I forgot the Circle Talker also.

 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 8:22 am
Charles Albert Green said:

You are wrong. Men are not the same. It is the little things that make us unique. I see where you are coming from though. Women are so predictable it’s criminal. Not all of them, but enough to make me question my sanity.


On 06/10/08 at 8:29 am
Karri said:

I would never be so bold as to suggest that this is only a man issue. As much as I’d like to believe that I am anything but typical, there are probably some who would disagree. ICK!

 
 

On 06/10/08 at 9:34 am
Jeremy said:

Maybe you should go gay for a while.


On 06/10/08 at 9:46 am
Jime said:

And videotape it.


On 06/10/08 at 9:50 am
Karri said:

I already own that t-shirt.

 
 

On 06/10/08 at 9:57 am
Karri said:

Jeremy, don’t even get me started on the list of things you should do. Or not do as is the case so often. PFFFFFT!!!


On 06/10/08 at 10:28 am
Jeremy said:

I wish you would. clearly I’ve been doing something wrong.


On 06/10/08 at 3:24 pm
Karri said:

On 06/10/08 at 3:57 pm
Jeremy said:

Wow, bitchy much?


On 06/10/08 at 6:12 pm
Karri said:

It happens when tactless imbeciles over-step their boundaries.

 
 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 11:20 am
Charles Albert Green said:

I can’t. I’m hopelessly addicted to women.


On 06/10/08 at 11:22 am
Karri said:

I got lost in the thread. You can’t…?


On 06/10/08 at 11:30 am
Charles Albert Green said:

I just erased SO much text it’s not funny. I hate laptops! I wrote “I can’t” believe anyone would switch sides just because of the monotany of dating. As much as women drive me up a wall I couldn’t just date men. “I’m hopelessly addicted to women.” I left much more then the unqouted text because I don’t wanna rewrite it all over again.


On 06/10/08 at 1:57 pm
Karri said:

Next time you accidentally erase, hit ctrl z. Its like magic!

Ummm…did I miss the memo that you’re a fence sitter? What the…?

 
 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 10:57 am
Rex said:

I watched The Shape of Things last weekend and I am NEVER dating again. Fuck that shit.


On 06/10/08 at 11:06 am
Karri said:

You know the drill…cliffnotes, please.


On 06/10/08 at 11:38 am
Rex said:

Sent it in an email… so’s not to ruin it for everyone else interested.

 
 

On 06/10/08 at 11:24 am
Charles Albert Green said:

That movie was fucking great. The poor fool got played in the worst way!!! He even got a nose job and all for some art majors “project”.


On 06/10/08 at 11:38 am
Rex said:

SPOILERS, BITCH!


On 06/10/08 at 1:59 pm
Karri said:

Like I would ever actually see the movie anyway. Although, I guess I’m not the only one here. hmmmm…

 
 
 
 

On 06/10/08 at 12:43 pm
Kevin said:

Having been around the block more than I’d care to describe or admit has made me jaded and bored with dating. Within minutes I can quickly put them into boxes and categories and I wasn’t always like that. I don’t want to come to the point where I feel disappointed by what I’ve come across as of late and that no one measures up to my grand ideas of what love and relationships should be. This goes for men and women it’s all become predictably uninteresting. You just hope that you come across someone who isn’t usual or the same as everyone else and who sets themselves apart from the rest in some way. The more different you are the more you risk being tail-gaited by me. Those moments where I’m tail-gaiting someone are nearly non-existent. I feel untouchable, unreachable because of that and it has nothing to do with ego, because it’s a pretty lonely place to be on occasion.

Can we safely say that society is breeding the onset of clones, the same breeds repeatedly the way that we bred the creepy array of serial killers in the sixties? The way we breed hate, love, artists, anarchists, right wing wackos and the onset of Stepford Husbands and Wives all separated into groups and clicks that vacate a space bordered by invisible lines. We create them and the ones that are their own individual and stand out we fall in love with them or ostracize them.


On 06/10/08 at 2:12 pm
Karri said:

I swear the common denominator here is those of us that have been around the block a time or two. It has to be as simple as life experiences and actually learning from our lessons. Eventually we are keen enough to recognize certain traits and attributes much swifter than we did all those years ago when we were naive.

I will NOT be put in a box nor would I ever want to be with someone who could.

 
 

On 06/10/08 at 12:45 pm
Kevin said:

P.S. And don’t know why my gravatar stopped showin’ up, I’ll just remain elusive. ;) Love the column Karri!


On 06/10/08 at 2:13 pm
Karri said:

I haven’t a clue what happened. Where is our technical support?

Thanks, love!

 
 

On 06/11/08 at 5:12 am
lisaq said:

More than men being all the same or having a physical type, I think it boils down to the kind of men we attract. I, sadly, have a past history of assclowns & douchebags mostly because it’s what I believed I deserved. Though they were all different in many ways, they were the same in their approach to our relationships, their emotional availability, etc. When you hit upon that realization, you reach the point where you start trying to make sure you’re not still out there attracting the same kinds of assclowns & douchebags. The trick is to clear your old beliefs in order to begin attracting a different kind of man. I know, easier said than done, but worth the effort.

 

On 06/11/08 at 6:32 pm
troy said:

you have had some bad luck, for sure.

nice guys are taught that they are unwanted, that “Bad Boys” get the girl.

gotta stay positive, even if its hard.

good things happen when you LEAST expect them! (another stereotype I know, but so so true!)

 

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